The Logitech G27 is a an awesome and fun racing wheel. This is as close as you can get to driving without actually being in a car. The 11 inch leather wrapped wheel is great and feels of high quality. It's not the same as what you will find in a Ferrari, but it sure feels better than plastic. The pedals are adjustable to allow for more precise control of the throttle, break and shifting. Trust me, adjusting those pedals till it feels right is very important when 1/10th of a second is all it takes to lose a race.
I never used a G25 but I can compare it to the Logitech Drving Force GT wheel made awhile back. This G27 blows that wheel out of the water. There is no comparison. After playing with the G27, the Driving Force GT just doesn't cut it no more.
The games I played with the G27 on the PS3 are Formula 1 and Gran Turismo Prologue. With F1, as with real F1 cars, I only used the paddle shifters. The force feedback on this thing is quite impressive. When you turn and mess up and the wheels lock, you will feel it.
In GT Prologue, I played it with the stick shift. Using the stick shift and driving a slow car around the circuits made it felt like I was really driving a car. I didn't notice the force feedback as much and will compare the feel of the wheel when GT 5 actually comes out. I prefer paddle shift because it is faster and my dream car is a Ferrari Enzo, which only comes with F1 Paddle Shifts.
Like with most reviewers here, I do agree the cords got excessive. I understand everything being hardwired is better because it allows for more precise control and you won't get any interference as you could with wireless. This is important when 1/10th of a second each lap can lose a race. My solution was to just buy a $1 cord tube from Ikea and stuff all the cords inside the tube. With that, you just have one fat tube from the wheel to the ps3, with the electrical cable partially hanging out and into the outlet.
Even if you decide not to use the stick shift, you will still have to connect that to the wheel in order to select and start a game on the PS3. It's a lot of cords, but once you get the set up right, its a minor nuisance.
I am going to order a Playseats Evolution Gaming Seat with the gear shift holder mount so I can attach this wheel and use it like how it was meant to be used and suggest those interested in this wheel invest in one as well. At least some sort of mounting solution to make playing with the wheel easier.
If you are serious about racing games, you need the Logitech G27. Keep in mind, this wheel is only compatible with a PC or PS3. It will NOT work with the Xbox 360.
See you at the track.
I picked up this G27 for use with my Playseats Evolution Gaming Seat, and have been very pleased. My major complaint is not with the G27, but that lack of support in PS3 games for the full capability (6 speed, paddle shifters, button mapping) as of right now.
As for the wheel itself, it feels very solid and well-constructed, offers fantastic force feedback, and it looks great (not cheap or like a toy). The stitching on the right-side thumb rest was kind of rough and actually scraped my finger, but I used a match to burn down the extra thread and it's fine now.
The shifter feels good if I make a conscious effort to remember that I'm playing a videogame, but I'm very cautious about letting friends play in 6-speed mode because I'm afraid they'll slam the gears and break the shifter. The shift light, n the one game I found that supports it...is pointless. Just not bright enough to be of any real value, though it's worth considering building your own setup with brighter LEDs and using the feed from the G27.
Pedals are very nice, well-spaced, and have an appropriate level of spring tension (doesn't feel like a toy, but won't wear your leg out after a few laps).
I've played with GT5P (no paddle support in prologue, but the demo of the full version had paddle and shift light support), Burnout Paradise (wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes in that game were it not for the novelty of using pedals, the game is trash), and GTR2 for the PC (a fantastic experience).
Overall I'd highly recommend this to anyone looking for an immersive videogame racing experience, it's better than any other I've tried.
It's a pretty good wheel. The shifter has a very short throw though, and feels sort of unnatural.
Positives:
-Solid build quality
-Easy setup
-Great experience and adds to realism
-Games much more fun to play
-Improves gameplay performance
Negatives:
-Cable management, too many cables everywhere. Zip ties and cable management velcro straps fixed this problem.
-USB cable is still short, had to add a usb cable extension to sit on couch and play. Logitech should make this longer or add an extension cable. I used the one Logitech provides as extensions for wireless mice/keyboard, worked perfectly.
We tested the Logitech G27 Racing Wheel on a Playstation 3 with the video games Burnout Paradise and NASCAR 09. The shift feature is not available in Burnout Paradise but is available when playing Nascar 09. Be forewarned, the vibration of the steering wheel when you crash can and will shake items off of the table!
The Logitech G27 Racing Wheel adds an entirely new component to both games. Players get a much fuller sense of driving as the force feedback is very realistic. The cars fight you when going into turns, adding a sense of realism missing with just a regular Playstation 3 controller.
Ease of use is an important thing in peripherals as I don't want to waste a lot of time getting something to work. The Logitech G27 Racing Wheel is simple to install. Essentially, it's plug and play. The buttons are set up just like the Playstation controller. My only question is where the actual PS button is; either it's there and I'm just overlooking it or this is one button that is missing.
All of the hardware seems well made. The racing wheel and pedals are made of stainless steel and are thus quite sturdy. Overall I was very impressed with the quality of the peripheral as it doesn't have that cheap feel but instead seems likely to be quite long lasting.
The G27 Racing Wheel is just a lot of fun to use with driving games. This was my first time using a peripheral like this and it has given me a new appreciation for it. Highly recommended!
First off, let me open with this wheel is not without fault. However, this has to be the best gaming peripheral I have ever owned. I will go into detail about the niggly little things later on. For now lets cover how incredible this wheel system is for driving games.
I have used this on a PS3 slim. Prior to this I had only driven Dirt 2 & Need for Speed: Shift by using my PlayStation 3 Dualshock 3 Wireless Controller. This often had me tapping the turn motion on one of the joysticks. This left alot to be desired if you were doing a slow left or right turn at speed it often caused the rear end to break loose and eventually I lost momentum or worse wrecked.
I am no stranger to the motto right tool for the right job. Back in the 80's I used to do flight sims on my pc with the keyboard. I dont know of too many pilots that fly that way so eventually I purchased a Yolk or joystick for fighter games. I knew a wheel would improve my driving because we drive that way it is a natural movement for us to achieve. I have used countless plastic wheels for driving games in the past. I had not however, used on on my PS3 because I just got it in September.
Now, just with everything quality counts. You can get a flimsy plastic wheel that will probably perform very close to this setup. You will not however get the amazing force feedback or leather covered wheel, tight shifter and more that makes this wheel stand hands above any I have ever used.
Force Feedback rocks:
I used to have one of the old Force Feedback joysticks from Microsoft back in the 90's. I could always out-strength it whenever I was pulling some maneuver somewhere. What is so awesome about the feedback here is it is really sensitive,yet at the same time very strong. Ill give you an example. When going into a turn it fights you like a real car will, ok I expected that. What I didnt expect is when airborne in a corner (like in Dirt 2) the wheel goes limp, like the wheels are actually off the ground and I have no resistance to turn. THAT IS FANTASTIC!
When playing with the standard controller I always played from a car down view like I was driving a remote controlled car. Now I always play in cockpit view. It has totally reinvigorated the way I play my driving games.
Now to the naggy stuff;
Cords- 4 to be exact that need to be run somewhere and often get all mixed up.
USB only, I really wish this had Bluetooth built in, might be worth a few more bucks to not have to sit on top of my television due to the shortish USB cord.
Dont see the point in the manual shifter, but it is a nice addition for if you like to shift that way. Most of the games I play don't use it so I wish I could ignore it all together but all of the PS3 buttons are on it.
Tips for ownership:
I am only reviewing this for PS3, The buttons above the shifter are (your X triangle and so on) the buttons below are your left side D pad buttons. The red buttons underneath are your start- select.
I have not found out what all the little ones on the steering wheel are for.
IMPORTANT: Do not have any controller set to #1 when you plug this in. The PS3 will assign it to number 2 and it will not work in any game. To be honest I often restarted the PS3 to get it to take the wheel as controller 1.
Pros:
>> Very high quality
>> Accurate Feel
>> Adaptive force feedback
>> Brings old driving games back to life
Cons:
<< Cords - too many and the one that you need most is too short (USB)
<< USB only (Fine for PC but annoying for PS3).
<< Complicated to move once its in place. Might have to buy a table specifically built for it.
Summary:
Overall this is a TOP NOTCH accessory for your driving games. It will bring new life into all of your driving games. I recommend restarting them all at the beginning because you will suck once you start over with this new toy.
Thank you for reading my review.
The G-27 is the best quality driving wheel system for the price. There are other systems that are much more expensive, but for the price, you cannot beat the G-27.
I had the privilege of owning its predecessor several years ago, the G25, so I knew mostly what to expect with this new G27, but I was still expecting so much more from Logitech. The expression "Logitech giveth and Logitech taketh away" seems most pertinent.
So, let's start:
Opening the box and getting everything out is very simple. All the parts are well designed, but you're immediately greeted with what I think is the biggest issue with the G25/27 set, - the cables. So many cables! 400 cables! (at least it feels like it)
The wheel has a cable coming out of it that goes into your PS3; the pedals have a cable coming out of it; the shifter has a cable coming out of it, and then there's the power brick that has a cable to be plugged in. All these cables plug into the wheel itself, and it's definitely not a pretty sight. I don't know about other people, but I don't have a place where I can leave my steering wheel/shifter/pedals plugged in 24/7, so setting all this up and putting it away again is a COMPLETE pain in the rear.
Putting the cable issue aside, there's a lot to like with the G27. It's an improvement over the G25 in many ways:
1.) The G27 wheel uses helical gears (or diagonal-cut gears) vs the G25's straight-cut gears. What this means is that there's a reduction in noise when turning the wheel, and it's also smoother while maintaing powerful force feedback! Great stuff!
2.) The shifter on the G27 no longer has a sequential mode (i.e. clicks up and down only), which is no big loss to me. I prefer either the regular 6-speed or using the paddle shifts on the wheel. While it may seem that this is still a LOSS compared to the G25's 6-speed AND sequential shifting, the new addition to the G27 is that the gears don't CLICK into place. On the G25, every gear change would greet you with a CLICK as the gear was put into place. Logitech have removed this sound so the gear movements don't hurt your ears with their plastic sounds as the G25 did. Now, some people have modified their G25 shifters to remove this sound, but it voids your warranty and I've read of several people irreparably breaking their shifters by doing this... In any case, for me, the G27 shifter is an improvement over the out-of-the-box G25 shifter.
3.) The pedals are now adjustable, which makes it a joy to heel-and-toe while racing. The pedal layout is a huge deal more comfortable than on the G25 pedals. This, for me, is a huge improvement. My right foot would get very uncomfortable with the G25 layout.
4.) There's a new set of tachometer LEDs on the wheel, though I've yet to play any game that supports them yet... It's a neat little feature, though, if it does as advertised.
5.) The G27 also has some more buttons on the steering wheel, which you can customize, of course.
So how does it play?
VERY well, depending on the software!
Need for Speed: Shift PS3:
I first tried out Need for Speed: Shift on the Playstation 3, and was pleasantly surprised to see that no setup is needed, and the controls just work. In fact, it even shows you a picture of the wheel/pedals on the control screen (albeit just the G25, but still...). It's great to have the wheel work out of the box with no tinkering. THAT said, there's perhaps too much force feedback in Shift to be particularly comfortable. The faster you get, the more the wheel fights with you. At 120mph, it's very hard to keep the wheel straight. I've track-driven several times at near 150mph speeds at times, and I can safely say my steering wheel doesn't fight me in real life like it did in the game...
So, for ease of use with Shift, I'd say 5/10. It's just too hard to keep the wheel straight at relatively high speeds...
Gran Turismo: Prologue PS3:
NOW we're talking. None of the fighting I experienced in Need for Speed: Shift, and plenty of smooth corners and subtle force feedback. It's fair to say the force feedback is a tad muted in Prologue, but it's infinitely more comfortable to play than Shift, and a real joy to hit those apexes time and time again. 9/10.
Overall, this wheel is excellent, but the pain of setting it up is just too much to ignore. It really is a cable nightmare. The wheel, pedals and shifter could easily be wireless by this point, meaning the only cable needed would be a power cable to the steering wheel for the force feedback to work. I suspect the inevitable G29 will remedy this, as the way the G27 currently works is a direct copy of the G25 which is 3 years old as of November, 2009.
Overall, though, a great wheel, if you can be bothered to go through the setting it up...!
4/5
Note: This wheel is for PC AND PS3.
I have had this wheel for about 2 months now and I have to say it is perfect. The wheel makes racing games seem that much more realistic. The 6-Speed Shifter and clutch are somethings that separate this wheel from all the other ones out there that normally just have a sequential shifter or paddles. I also am very fond of the mounting system of this wheel, It allows you to put it on just about any table of almost any thickness. I currently am waiting on my Playseats Evolution Gaming Seat to go with this wheel. I have also owned the G25 wheel before I got this and one of my cons with going to the G27 is that there is no option to use the Paddle Shifters in Gran Turismo 5 Prologue which is a little upsetting because there are certain cars that use the paddle shifters in real life in the game. But that is just something small. Overall, this is a great wheel and a must have for any racing game enthusiast!
Though I'd love to, I've never been able to get into high-end video game peripherals like this due to the steep price. Furthermore, I'm not a hard-core racing fan, which you would need to be to make this buy worthwhile. I got lucky, though, and was able to get my hands on one!
Physically, this product is very impressive. Seems to be very sturdily built, and I love the leather steering wheel cover. I set it up by attaching it to our coffee table and sitting leaning up against the couch. It works ok, but I can really see the advantage of getting one of those pricey racing chairs to go with this. The pedals are very sturdy; I don't feel like I could break them, even with rough use. The shifter knob didn't get a lot of use from me, but it felt very nice as well.
So far I've tried this with 6 different demos on my PS3: Gran Turismo 5, Motorstorm, Fuel, Grid, Dirt, and Need For Speed Shift. My favorites were Dirt and NFS Shift. Gran Turismo, which I thought would be the best given its reputation, was the most finicky and hard to control. It felt the least like real driving of all of them, ironically. Dirt was a blast, and the force-feedback of this wheel really let you feel the road, from the slippy dry dirt, to the mud, to the grippy asphalt. I'm not very good at racing games anyway, so it took a while for me to get any good at these demos with the G27. NFS Shift was a different feel from Dirt, but it was the easiest street racer to get a feel for (and not finish dead last).
The feedback that comes from this wheel is really incredible to experience. It really does help immerse you further in the game. With a bigger TV, and good sound system, and a good seat set-up, this would really be the crowning jewel of a video game racing fan's gear.
Most of the downsides to this product probably don't concern the sort of enthusiast who is looking to buy it anyway. They are: its price (which is commensurate with the quality), the need for a good table or chair to set it up on, and all the cables. It would probably drain batteries very quickly, but it might be worth it to eliminate all of the cables that go with it.
I have been a member of the actual racing community, for going on 6 years now. I have driven many a car. Ferrari F40's, Corvettes, Honda's, 350z's, 370z's, mustangs, Porsche's, so on and so forth, and I'm a big racing gamer on PS2, PS3, and PC, and I have been using either the PlayStation controllers, or a 360 controller, and I have been eying up the G25 for a while now, and when the g27 came out I really wanted a g25 because of the sequential shifter, which is something that I have used quite often, and am very familiar with it. But in the holiday season and with Gran Tourismo 5 coming around the corner, and Dirt 2 this week and my birthday next week, I bought it. I have been using it for about a week now and have logged maybe 20 hours of racing time on various games, Dirt 2 Demo, Gran Tourismo Prologue, Need for Speed Shift, and Test Drive: Unlimited, and all I can say is ... WOW.
Need For speed Shift, I am mastering every corner in every race, my lap times have greatly increased and I have so much control over the car that I can effectively turn off all aids and tackle a course with one 1 or 2 restarts while I learn the breaking point of the car. This wheel is brilliant, 900 degree rotation, solid H-pattern shifter (very similar in throws to the 350z) very responsive pedals that actually warrant proper use of heel toe, that was a very nice touch.
of course all good things have flaws, but I will not go into wires and plastic screws because that is all rated else where here, but a few other things that I would like to point out. RPM indicator is quite limited at the moment, I know that not all the software is implemented yet but it is something that I am gleefully looking forward too. Cannot get the Clutch to work in all games ,(same as last con) lack of a PlayStation button, or something assigned to that function would be nice, and It would have been really nice of Logitech to supply a full version of rFactor and not just a 60 minute demo.
Also I want to point out about the force feedback, it's strong, if your not an avid semi professional race car driver, your body will hurt after fighting with the car after a 3 hour endurance race, also the feedback can be a bit loud but turn up the volume is all you should need to do.
This wheel is worth all 30,000 pennies, because it puts you into the car while keeping your safe in your seat.
Pros: Well built. Leather wheel feels much better than plastic. Clutch, break, gas all have different push pressure. Feedback force feels great. I just hope the motor won't give up on me any time soon!
Paddle shifters made out of metal and when shifting they feel very durable and firm.
Installation was a breeze.
Cons: The leather is no BMW quality! However, as mentioned before, it's much better than plastic wheel.
The screws that attach the wheel and shift stick to the table are made of plastic and give impression if you screw them too hard they'll crack. But so far so good.
Lots of cables. But I just taped them together and it's now manageable.
Have no horn button?.. :)
I don't have much to say about manual shift stick. It feels alright but I don't use it in any games( takes longer to shift), only paddle shifters.
I've never tried g25, so I can't compare them but judging from the pictures, extra buttons on g27 give a bigger advantage.
Overall, I'm very satisfied with this product.
Games played with G27: iRacing, NFS Shift.
The person above is wrong. When it showed that it would be in stock, that doesn't mean that there are other people who ordered this BEFORE him/her and received it. Anyway, this is extremely easy to use, I especially liked the pedals. It responds very quickly, a millisecond from when you turned.
I recommend this product. This wheel is the finest made yet, and I hope to see more of these in the future.
As I already owned a Driving Force" wheel by Logitech,I was looking forward to improved driving with G27 and was not disappointed! Many current force feedback style games are not making use of the additional clutch pedal feature and the buttons on the steering wheel itself do occasionally get hit by accident...but after two or three times one can "learn" to avoid that. The wheel looks great and mounted easily to my playseats chair with just a little drilling. The bolts needed are metric 6 thread.Two came for the shifter in the shifter mounting attatchment I bought separately. I do not know how different this wheel may be from a G25 but A BIG step up for me! Hope this helps.
I've been using another brand racing wheel, although it's a good brand it still has some important durability lacks, the brake pedal broke after 1 year of a non intensive use, and one of shift change paddles started to fail in response.
I'm part of a very respectful racing community ([...]) since May this year and asked my mates, who mainly take part of weekly online races once or twice a week, which wheels where they using, for how long, and how much weekly. Almost everybody answered that they owned Logitech wheels, and in very high number the G25 (see this thread [...]). All where very happy with the product, even people owning G25s for more than 2 years ago. So I decided to move to Logitech's racing wheels as soon as possible 3 months ago.
Since the G27 was launched in October this year made no sense buying the old model (G25) although its a very good product. But on the other hand the G27 is built based on the G25 engineering ad specs.Two weeks ago I finally bought the G27, through Amazon, excellent shipping packing, delivered before the estimate shipping date, unpacked it, installed drivers, set up wheel and connected it... and everything went perfect! No issues, no problems.
I played with Race On, Race 07, and the simulated driving experience improved a lot! Even I'm doing 3-4 seconds better times in all hotlaps in various circuits without practicing a lot.
Amazing! My previous wheel wasn't bad but this one is the best of the best. In fact is the best rated of all ([...]). Look for other racing wheel reviews within this site and then make your decision.
As for me I truly recommend the G27 it's worth every penny.
